Comments on: The iTunes Consolidation Project

By: dean Cameron

dean Cameron — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 03:15:47 +0000

i tried using a nas but it was soooooo sloooowwww and everything hiccuped and the bride got mad at me.

By: Dave Humphries

Dave Humphries — Thu, 19 Feb 2009 07:26:30 +0000

i hear you on the not being an audiophile point…. i dont’ consider myself much of one. i’ve seen so many dead and widespread shows that my ears aren’t what they used to be. the zeppelin was more than i wanted to spend, but it just sounds awesome and can fill a really big space.

re: the shotgun issue, that’s about the only complaint i have — getting calls while i’m listening to music.

multi-user itunes is a pain in the ass, no doubt. i can’t even get single-user itunes on multiple systems to work the way i want. but i’m not very patient.

be good.

By: Dave Zatz

Dave Zatz — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:35:17 +0000

Dave, I am so not an audiophile. I've turned down review items before since I know I can't do them justice. I'm perfectly content with low quality audio it seems. However, I have been looking at solutions similar to the one you mentioned - Internet radio could be provided via Slacker or Pandora apps. Although I was hoping more for a Squeezebox Boom solution with it all builtin, no need for an iPhone riding shotgun. I feel like Sonos has the best solution for what I want to do, just not the best form factor - external speakers in the living room are fine, but in the kitchen, bedroom, and den/office I'd prefer a smaller device with integrated speakers. Jason, that's the bottom line: the current iTunes ecosystem isn't ideal for a multi-user household. Perhaps these Replay rumors, if they come to pass, will help alleviate the situation.

By: Jason

Jason — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:22:45 +0000

I think what Apple fails to realize is that the one computer solution does not map to the reality of many households. We have all our music on a single Mac Mini, but I have my own MacBook (and iPhone and Shuffle) and my wife has her own PC laptop (and Nano).

We don’t mind the extra hassle of synching music from the Mini, but what about when I want to watch a video on my MacBook? I could download it in iTunes on my MacBook but then I can’t synch it to my iPhone without erasing all of my music (that was synched on the Mini) because the iPhone is tied to Mini… I also can’t listen to any music on my MacBook without being at home on the home network (or duplicating the entire library on all computers and trying to manage dupes, etc.)

For a company that strives for ubiquity, Apple should really think about some kind of “householding” solution where all machines could be “registered” as under the same roof and sharing content between the devices is seamless. I’d venture that many households now have more than one machine with iTunes and more than one iPod/iPhone… I’ve thought about the NAS-approach and may give it a shot but I’m still not sure that it our problems.

By: Dave Humphries

Dave Humphries — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:08:54 +0000

Dave - re: your quest for a boombox solution, is native internet radio a requirment? If not, you need to check out the B&W Zeppelin if you haven't already. It might be a little bigger than you are seeking (i think 25" end to end) but it is eleven kinds of awesome. I get the stupid incompatibility message for the iPhone 3G, even tho it appears to work flawlessy. The unit also has a 3.5mm/mini-toslink input. It's six bills, but the sound alone is worth every nickel. Perhaps you should have your people call their people and get a review unit. Hope all is well with you guys.

By: Spark

Spark — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:14:22 +0000

My current solution is to use one computer as the “master” with full access to the library. I then share the library of music through simple file sharing, but I share it as “read only”. Then, computer #2 adds the collection to their iTunes library, without moving the source files. The biggest downside is that additions can only be made on the “master”. I am not content with my current solution.

Honestly, the #1 problem with integrating two libraries was dealing with duplicates. After years of CD ripping, with id3 information coming from various databases, etc. the state of duplicate discovery was horrible. This software package was a HUGE time saver: http://dougscripts.com/itunes/itinfo/dupin.php
It costs $15, and I thought it was worth every penny. Between that, and iTunes ability to mass edit id3 tags, I was able to get my entire library into good shape. It took several hours however.

By: Dave Zatz

Dave Zatz — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:40:01 +0000

I may end up with the same conclusion, but I'm not ready to throw in the towel without trying. The goal is to merge our audio files into one directory on the NAS and for two users to have two unique iTunes databases/indexes on different machines link to those files on the server. I'm backing up my tunes now and will use the simple Change location function to copy the files to the networked/external drive. I assume we'll have to get into the "consolidate" function at some point as well. Will let you know. Although, I thought of a new wrinkle. On the rare occasion I buy a television show, it'd be stored on the NAS instead of the laptop where I might want to watch it (while mobile). Hm.

By: Dale Dietrich

Dale Dietrich — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:38:03 +0000

Typo correction: I meant in a NON-DRM’d format in my post above!!!

Even still Dave I would use just ONE PC to manage all iPods, iPhones etc. in the home. Again, I’d do it on the more tech literate users PC. The other person plugs in their device whenever they want an update or to play with their playlists.

You can, of course, save all your media on a server but that won’t add the content into itunes libraries on each PC. If you do it that way you are creating a LOT of work. Say you rip a CD … you’ll get it on the PC doing the ripping really easily. But then you’d have to go off to the other PC to manually add that CD into its library. Delete a song from one library and it will show up as an error (missing song) on the other. And around and around it goes.

I’ve been fighting this horror show for years and the only solution that works is to do it all on one PC.

Another idea is to set up an ‘account’ on a given PC just for iTunes management. So each user logs into that account to add/remove content, sync devices etc. That way kids, for example, won’t have access to an adult’s account just to sync their iPod.

…Dale