Comments on: Gefen DVR Records HD via HDMI

By: Chris

Chris — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:38:18 +0000

Some great info here. I was actually looking for a device like this, not to record from dvds or tv, but, and don’t laugh too hard, to record game sessions from XBOX or PS3. A few friends and myself LOVE to record and then mix the sessions to music or even produce into something fun (ie – Red vs. Blue). Honestly though, not worth $1000. Hoping something like this comes out cheaper.

By: Adam

Adam — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:54:39 +0000

This device does provide image processing, not persisting for more time then necessary. It records HDCP content strictly for playback only on the same unit only. It is not recording HDCP content to exchangeable media such as a disk or videotape. That being said, it will take a source from S-Video, composite, component and two HDMI’s. Also works great recording a DVI signal. Extremely practical to record Final Cut Pro videos in HD prior to export for approval to management. Extremely practical in using the HDMI out of your consumer/pro-sumer HD camera (ex1, d90) for instant replay while avoiding compression. Same for SD cameras (betacam, dv etc) , except you can also export the source to USB / SD-CARD in that case. Combine with other products like Gefen HQV scaler and do on the fly HD upconversion. Split the signal to multiple devices with a Gefen HDMI splitter, or perhaps extend it via coax, or maybe even convert it to 3g-sdi for seamless computer capture via Gefen’s HDMI to 3g-sdi converter. Infact you could turn consumer cameras into professional quality via this method.

By: Fred Ziffel

Fred Ziffel — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 15:00:24 +0000

Here is a device that can record component HD

By: trevor

trevor — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:04:07 +0000

I dont know…the price is pretty steep and it only record in 1080i. Is it worth it?

By: Dave Zatz

Dave Zatz — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:21:44 +0000

Ben, the license agreement is pretty clear…

3.1 No Copies. A Presentation Device shall not make any copies of Decrypted HDCP Content for any purpose, except for such temporary buffers as are permitted under Section 3.2.

and…

Decrypted HDCP Content may be temporarily buffered in a Presentation Device to enable and perform the Presentation Function, image processing function (e.g., picture-in-picture display, image overlay, image enhancement and brightness adjustment) or “freeze frame” of a single frame of Audiovisual Content, provided that such buffer shall not persist for more time than is necessary to perform such function.

By: Ben Drawbaugh

Ben Drawbaugh — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:19:08 +0000

I’d think they could record it, as long as the continued to control it afterwards.

By: Dave Zatz

Dave Zatz — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:12:20 +0000

$1000 for unencrypted re-encoded HD isn’t worth it in my opinion, anyhow… and for most content there’s a variety of ways to archive HD copies without cracking a case. (TiVoToGo, cablebox+firewire, Windows MCE, etc).

They still haven’t explained how they’re compliant with HDCP which explicitly states NO recording (my main point) other than temporary buffer, though I spelled out my hunch above.

By the way, it’s purely an academic question on my part. I say we toss HDCP entirely.

By: MegaZone

MegaZone — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:47:56 +0000

Looks like Gefen is going to start encrypting the drives: http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9898065-7.html

Gee, thanks Dave!