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	<title>Comments on: CES: TiVo Desktop 2.6 Details</title>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-01/ces-tivo-desktop-26-details/comment-page-1/#comment-87597</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is there any kind of plug-in that i can download or get from somewhere, to get the movies from my tivo, to my pc???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there any kind of plug-in that i can download or get from somewhere, to get the movies from my tivo, to my pc???</p>
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		<title>By: William C Bonner</title>
		<link>http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-01/ces-tivo-desktop-26-details/comment-page-1/#comment-76538</link>
		<dc:creator>William C Bonner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transcoding is a huge burden, in that I don&#039;t want to leave a power hungry machine running to do my transcoding, especially when the TiVo has the hardware to play the stuff natively. My home server is built on a low power VIA EPIA EN12000EG motherboard running on a fanless picoPSU-90 power supply.  I believe that it draws less than 25 watts at full utilization.  It takes at least 4 hours to transcode a one hour show in TiVo desktop.

I don&#039;t want to let Tivo desktop run on my laptop because it&#039;s not got enough ram for excess bloat, plus my laptop is optimized for low power as well.

Here&#039;s my hardware links: http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=399 and http://www.davisnet.com/drive/products/drive_product.asp?pnum=08226</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transcoding is a huge burden, in that I don&#8217;t want to leave a power hungry machine running to do my transcoding, especially when the TiVo has the hardware to play the stuff natively. My home server is built on a low power VIA EPIA EN12000EG motherboard running on a fanless picoPSU-90 power supply.  I believe that it draws less than 25 watts at full utilization.  It takes at least 4 hours to transcode a one hour show in TiVo desktop.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to let Tivo desktop run on my laptop because it&#8217;s not got enough ram for excess bloat, plus my laptop is optimized for low power as well.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my hardware links: <a href="http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=399" rel="nofollow">http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=399</a> and <a href="http://www.davisnet.com/drive/products/drive_product.asp?pnum=08226" rel="nofollow">http://www.davisnet.com/drive/products/drive_product.asp?pnum=08226</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Zatz</title>
		<link>http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-01/ces-tivo-desktop-26-details/comment-page-1/#comment-76535</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Zatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding CPU, I spoke with to the product marketing manager who didn&#039;t seem to the think the transcoding would be a huge processor burden. As far as conversion times, the slowest it might be on a modern computer would be real-time. He said with a dual core processor, an hour show converts in just a few minutes.

We also spoke a bit about why they don&#039;t support video podcast (or other) streaming or downloads direct to the TiVo. And some of the assumptions here are probably right regarding video type versus playback capabilities. gt, TiVo&#039;s audio podcasts streaming may not be the best example since we can&#039;t even pause the content. I&#039;d rather transcode and be able to have my TiVo controls available while viewing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding CPU, I spoke with to the product marketing manager who didn&#8217;t seem to the think the transcoding would be a huge processor burden. As far as conversion times, the slowest it might be on a modern computer would be real-time. He said with a dual core processor, an hour show converts in just a few minutes.</p>
<p>We also spoke a bit about why they don&#8217;t support video podcast (or other) streaming or downloads direct to the TiVo. And some of the assumptions here are probably right regarding video type versus playback capabilities. gt, TiVo&#8217;s audio podcasts streaming may not be the best example since we can&#8217;t even pause the content. I&#8217;d rather transcode and be able to have my TiVo controls available while viewing.</p>
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		<title>By: gt</title>
		<link>http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-01/ces-tivo-desktop-26-details/comment-page-1/#comment-76533</link>
		<dc:creator>gt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>huh? this makes no sense...you can input url&#039;s for regular audio podcasts, which are then streamed, but you cant do the same with video? why all this workaround? drm or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huh? this makes no sense&#8230;you can input url&#8217;s for regular audio podcasts, which are then streamed, but you cant do the same with video? why all this workaround? drm or something?</p>
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		<title>By: TiVo Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-01/ces-tivo-desktop-26-details/comment-page-1/#comment-76520</link>
		<dc:creator>TiVo Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now if only TiVo would fix the bugs in the 9.1 update!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now if only TiVo would fix the bugs in the 9.1 update!</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-01/ces-tivo-desktop-26-details/comment-page-1/#comment-76513</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I think the folder support is a far bigger deal for me, but we&#039;ll see how this goes.  Now if they can just tell it to do the transcoding in the middle of the night...

Like others I wonder about the obvious... since Xvid and DivX are both basically mpeg-4 variants, if I have a video in either format, and want to push it to a Tivo HD or Series 3, what will the CPU load on the PC look like?  Light and fast, like a wrapper change, or a full transcode burden...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I think the folder support is a far bigger deal for me, but we&#8217;ll see how this goes.  Now if they can just tell it to do the transcoding in the middle of the night&#8230;</p>
<p>Like others I wonder about the obvious&#8230; since Xvid and DivX are both basically mpeg-4 variants, if I have a video in either format, and want to push it to a Tivo HD or Series 3, what will the CPU load on the PC look like?  Light and fast, like a wrapper change, or a full transcode burden&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Dietrich</title>
		<link>http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-01/ces-tivo-desktop-26-details/comment-page-1/#comment-76510</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Dietrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a step in the right direction, but I&#039;m with William C Bonner. I want my S3 to do this natively with H.264/Mpeg video podcasts. It has the power. 

My chief concern with this approach is that the desktop app has to be running constantly on the PC sucking up cycles. I purposefully minimize all running apps on my PC to keep performance at its peak. I don&#039;t want TiVo Desktop pulling my system performance down. And I  sure don&#039;t want to have to remember to manually start and stop TiVo Desktop every day just to get my video podcasts over to the TiVo.

I understand why they are doing this for S2 users, but for TiVo HD and S3 users, the better approach is to do this all within the TiVo

...Dale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a step in the right direction, but I&#8217;m with William C Bonner. I want my S3 to do this natively with H.264/Mpeg video podcasts. It has the power. </p>
<p>My chief concern with this approach is that the desktop app has to be running constantly on the PC sucking up cycles. I purposefully minimize all running apps on my PC to keep performance at its peak. I don&#8217;t want TiVo Desktop pulling my system performance down. And I  sure don&#8217;t want to have to remember to manually start and stop TiVo Desktop every day just to get my video podcasts over to the TiVo.</p>
<p>I understand why they are doing this for S2 users, but for TiVo HD and S3 users, the better approach is to do this all within the TiVo</p>
<p>&#8230;Dale</p>
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		<title>By: William C Bonner</title>
		<link>http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2008-01/ces-tivo-desktop-26-details/comment-page-1/#comment-76501</link>
		<dc:creator>William C Bonner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Automatically transferring files to the Tivo looks really cool.

I&#039;ve got the TiVo HD, and it supposedly has hardware support for H.264 and MPEG4. I&#039;ve experimented with transferring DVD VOB files to the TiVo directly as MPEG2 and that looks better than my $50 DVD player, and skips transcoding. What I&#039;d like to know is there going to be a way of skipping the transcoding using the protocol any time soon?

I paid for the TiVo desktop plus, only to find that the free Windows Home Server addin does a better job of transcoding shows for my widescreen tv. http://durfee.net/software/2007/07/tivo-publisher-for-whs.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Automatically transferring files to the Tivo looks really cool.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got the TiVo HD, and it supposedly has hardware support for H.264 and MPEG4. I&#8217;ve experimented with transferring DVD VOB files to the TiVo directly as MPEG2 and that looks better than my $50 DVD player, and skips transcoding. What I&#8217;d like to know is there going to be a way of skipping the transcoding using the protocol any time soon?</p>
<p>I paid for the TiVo desktop plus, only to find that the free Windows Home Server addin does a better job of transcoding shows for my widescreen tv. <a href="http://durfee.net/software/2007/07/tivo-publisher-for-whs.html" rel="nofollow">http://durfee.net/software/2007/07/tivo-publisher-for-whs.html</a></p>
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